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  • One was saying, ‘The sky will pass away: without any doubt, this edifice hath a builder.’
  • The other said, ‘It is eternal and timeless: it hath no builder, or else it is (itself) the builder.’
  • He (his adversary) said, ‘You have denied the Creator, the Producer of day and night and the Giver of sustenance.’
  • He (the philosopher) said, ‘Without clear evidence, I will not listen to that which an ignoramus has accepted by rote. 2845
  • Come, bring the proof and evidence, for never in the world will I hearken to this without proof.’
  • ‘The proof,’ he replied, ‘is within my soul: my evidence is hidden within my soul.
  • You, from weakness of eye, are not seeing the new moon: (if) I am seeing it, do not you be angry with me.’
  • There was much debate, and the people became perplexed as to the beginning and end of this well-ordered celestial sphere.
  • He (the pious man) said, ‘Friend, within me is a (decisive) proof: I have a (manifest) sign indicating the temporal origin of the sky. 2850
  • I possess the certainty: for him that hath certain knowledge the token thereof is that he will go into the fire.